Comments on: An Independent Scotland and the EU: What Route to Membership? https://www.europeanfutures.ed.ac.uk/an-independent-scotland-and-the-eu-what-route-to-membership/ Edinburgh Europa Institute Sat, 07 Apr 2018 16:54:50 +0000 hourly 1 By: an accountancy viewpoint https://www.europeanfutures.ed.ac.uk/an-independent-scotland-and-the-eu-what-route-to-membership/#comment-3062 Sat, 04 Mar 2017 15:21:26 +0000 http://blogs.sps.ed.ac.uk/europablogsite/?p=4667#comment-3062 In reply to WillM.

…if I may make a comment…about the lose of the Barnett formula, I would say – from a purely accountancy viewpoint – that, although Scotland would no longer have the Barnett formula, that loss may be offset, as Scotland would get all tax revenues raised in Scotland (Scotland would no longer contribute to UK budget) which would be collected by a new Scottish tax authority, and it would get all the oil revenues corresponding to its share (one would need to know how much of such revenues currently goes to the UK budget..); additionally, all sales by Scottish companies, which currently reach the EU via England, could become Scottish export. In fact, in the event of independence, nothing would prevent Scots products – which are currently shipped to EU countries from English seaports, and which currentlly would not count as Scottish export toward the EU – from being sent to the EU direcly from Scotland.
I mean that any estimate would need to accurately take into account: a) at the level of a new Scottish State, both what Scotland would lose and what Scotland would earn, i.e. both side of a double-entry booking (therefore, it would not be accurate to assume that a Scottish State budget would start with a 9% deficit or more; here, a detailed estimate of all new revenue sources would be necessary to come to a reliable calculation); the latest estimate that I have read in a document of the UK Parliament (http://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/SN06625/SN06625.pdf, at page 8) states that, even after all revenues raising power deriving from the Scotland Act 2016 come into force, the Scottish Parliament will only get 50% of its budget from devolved and assigned taxes, so that the Barnett formula is obviously important, but it is so in the context of the current constitutional framework, where all personal income tax and corporate income tax, even if raised in Scotland, are centrally collected by HMRC and not by a Scottish tax authority, and where the Scottish Government only gets, through HMRC, the portion corresponding to the “Scottish Rate of Income Tax”, not to mention VAT); b) at the level of trade accounts and thus of Scottish export (which would generate taxable profits of businesses having tax residence in Scotland), one would need to consider all duty-free export that would directly go from Scotland to the single market (without the need to cross England for transit).
In my view, all this would need to be considered – from a strictly accountancy viewpoint – to get an accurate estimate of what would be the “starting deficit” (if any) of a new Scottish State.
For the rest, the scenario of the UK divorce appears to be heading toward a “bad divorce” from the EU, and continued UK dutry-free access to the single market could not be taken for granted. E.g., in a hypothetical scenario where the financial passport would no longer be available to financial institutions based in the UK, but would be available to financial institutions based in a new indy Scotland (at least) within the EEA , it would be reasonable to expect substantial inward investments in Scotland. Admittedly, these are hypothesis, but asserting that a Scottish budget would start from a 9% deficit is also an hypothesis..for the reasons above indicated

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By: The Internationalist » The Scottish Play: Will Brexit Spell the End of a United Kingdom? https://www.europeanfutures.ed.ac.uk/an-independent-scotland-and-the-eu-what-route-to-membership/#comment-3061 Thu, 02 Mar 2017 20:13:04 +0000 http://blogs.sps.ed.ac.uk/europablogsite/?p=4667#comment-3061 […] would actually be welcomed into the EU—and, if so, how soon and on what terms. Some experts argue that an independent Scotland could be fast-tracked into the EU, potentially by 2023. However, this […]

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By: orcadian https://www.europeanfutures.ed.ac.uk/an-independent-scotland-and-the-eu-what-route-to-membership/#comment-3052 Sat, 25 Feb 2017 17:51:28 +0000 http://blogs.sps.ed.ac.uk/europablogsite/?p=4667#comment-3052 The route must surely lie via initial EFTA membership but this has been left to one side. There are huge practical implications for the people of Scotland in this question. For example could Scotland never leave EFTA if it votes for independence in Autumn 2018? That means free movement of persons and recognition of professional qualifications (for example, European doctors in the NHS) remains intact in Scotland even as the rUK leaves both EU and EFTA (in event of a hard Brexit). Programs such as Erasmus and Horizon 2020 from which Scottish universities benefit might remain in place in Scotland but be lost in rUK. Scots require a lot more information about feasibility and timescale of EFTA as well as EU membership.

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By: WillM https://www.europeanfutures.ed.ac.uk/an-independent-scotland-and-the-eu-what-route-to-membership/#comment-3051 Sat, 25 Feb 2017 09:18:56 +0000 http://blogs.sps.ed.ac.uk/europablogsite/?p=4667#comment-3051 To give just one example of why Scotland will NEVER again EU membership if independent, you need only look at the budget deficit – rapidly heading towards 9%. To join, accession states need a deficit no greater than 3%. With separation from our biggest trading partner (England) and loss of the benefits of the Barnett formula, Scotland hasn’t a hope of achieving this.

Brexit will be a hard blow to the UK, but Scotland being out of the EU and UK will be disasterous. If we vote for Independence, this will happen. This article illustrates why it’s more important than ever to to resist this suicidal option, and we must campaign NOW to ensure it doesn’t.

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By: Crubag https://www.europeanfutures.ed.ac.uk/an-independent-scotland-and-the-eu-what-route-to-membership/#comment-3032 Tue, 21 Feb 2017 22:44:09 +0000 http://blogs.sps.ed.ac.uk/europablogsite/?p=4667#comment-3032 Having worked on east European accession I’d say Ewan, and to a degree Caius, have it right. It’s the institution building that would be key, the economic and monetary chapter most obviously. Establishing a central bank (private provider?), currency and reserves can be done – others have – but Scotland will still have its business and domestic debt denominated in sterling and vulnerable to adverse shifts.

What might be called the Salmond alternative, relying on sterling and BoE, now controlled by a non-EU entity would not see iScotland meeting all the EU tests of fiscal and monetary competence.

And there are more obscure ones, such as each country’s independent statistical office that the Commission puts great store in (despite Eurostat!). Given the SG’s current capacity, I would guess it would take 2-3 years to develop this and the required datasets.

But it is a political club – the question is if Brexit is not a disaster, would the political optics of an iScotland still view the EU in the same way? For instance, passing its newly acquired fishing rights back over to the EU (an exclusive competence)? It may then prefer a Norway option.

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